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Just Sai · Oct 17, 2010, 10:39 PM // 22:39

haha the egos are hilarious

i say god job to everyone who bothered to play the game in its entirety instead of becoming stagnant.

for those who have a high number and dont like it, get over yourself nobody cares about you

for those that have a low number, you've only yourself to blame, if anyone, this is a game afterall, no RL glory etc heh

6-8-18-7-5 fyi

RedStar · Oct 17, 2010, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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6-8-18-7-5 fyi

Actually wondered for 5 mins what those numbers were supposed to mean.

Isn't that kind of egocentric to post your achievements to sort of back up what you were saying ? People aren't (and shouldn't be) that dumb to actually judge the post of someone else based on his HoM (or his post count, or anything).

GW2 won't be out for at least a year so if someone really wants 50/50, they should play instead of hoping some things will be easier to obtain (you can still hope for more minis and more weapons, but really if ANet is going to change anything is to make the cap a little harder to reach).

Spookii · Oct 18, 2010, 12:37 AM // 00:37

/notsigned

It's not like this is giving anyone information that could possibly lead to an account compromise. The only reason I could see anyone wanting to do this is if you had nothing in your hall and you were flaunting (lying) in chat about how much bling you have in-game.

If that's the case, then I hope people do take the time to look up your account.

Always better to get the truth out there! /patpat

**cosyfiep** · Oct 18, 2010, 03:30 AM // 03:30

not really happy about it.....but as long as people cant correlate your ign with your account name and password I guess I will live with it----

Acehole2006 · Dec 23, 2010, 05:51 PM // 17:51

/not signed

Its so simple for me when guildies ask for help to max there HoM and i can just go look at what is needed for them.

Plus i enjoy showing off my achievments.

Only reason i think some people dont want people to see it is because they have been blagging what titles they actually have and now people can call them that hahaha, witnessed that a few times now lol.

Wrath of m0o · Dec 23, 2010, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Im in yer HoM's...Defiling yer Minipets!!!
Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh
Chezburgggaahhh

Acehole2006 · Dec 23, 2010, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by Wrath of m0o

Im in yer HoM's...Defiling yer Minipets!!!
Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh
Chezburgggaahhh

dammm knew i should have /signed this :P

A11Eur0 · Dec 24, 2010, 10:31 PM // 22:31

I'm kind of a HOM stalker...mostly it's to drop bombs on trolls I see in major towns bragging about this and that and how they can "faceroll the game with no armor" whenever someone posts up a LFG message. If I see anyone talking about how good they are and how scrub everyone else is, they usually have a lower score...under 20/50. I've very rarely seen someone with 40+/50 talking smack in town. It's very strange.

I don't care what people see in mine. I run around with my shinies out and my titles, no biggie. If they want to hack my account they need to know that my char name exists in the first place before looking at HOM...and if they see it in town they already see what I have accomplished.

Gabriel of Ravn · Dec 24, 2010, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

I'm kind of a HOM stalker...mostly it's to drop bombs on trolls I see in major towns bragging about this and that and how they can "faceroll the game with no armor" whenever someone posts up a LFG message. If I see anyone talking about how good they are and how scrub everyone else is, they usually have a lower score...under 20/50. I've very rarely seen someone with 40+/50 talking smack in town. It's very strange.

I don't care what people see in mine. I run around with my shinies out and my titles, no biggie. If they want to hack my account they need to know that my char name exists in the first place before looking at HOM...and if they see it in town they already see what I have accomplished.

I do this often as well but I find most of the major smack talkers usually use a extra account only having 3/50 points or at least the ones I've ran into.

A11Eur0 · Dec 24, 2010, 10:39 PM // 22:39

3/50 doesn't always mean extra account...sometimes it means they just don't have eotn. That alone discounts their talking, because aside from UW/Deep/Urgoz, the hardest stuff in the game is in EOTN.

Some who have extensive titles and goodies but don't have eotn are not going to show much in HOM. I ignore 3/50's for this reason. but if I see more than 3, that shows me that they do have EOTN, and they've put in the effort to build up that account, at least a little. So, either they have maxed their main acct and put extras into their secondary, or that's their main. Either way, you shouldn't really be smack talking on an alt account with nothing to show for it.

SmokingHotImolation · Dec 24, 2010, 11:13 PM // 23:13

/signed for the same reason why people shouldn't be able to look through your inventory, character stats etc. It's private information about your account and shouldn't be made public.

The amount of "i don't care so it's not a problem"-argumentation in this thread really saddens me btw. At least try to argue why people should have the ability to look through your achievements and wheigh it up against the arguments against it..

MithranArkanere · Dec 25, 2010, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

3/50 doesn't always mean extra account...sometimes it means they just don't have eotn.[...]

No, it ALWAYS does.

To make them appear in the calculator, you MUST add them to your HoM.

It's the HoM calculator, not the account achievement calculator.

HeavyTank · Dec 25, 2010, 08:16 AM // 08:16

i has 39/50! muahaha!

anyways, /indifferent

i really cannot care less about this stuff. it's cool yeah. but honestly? i stopped caring about it once i cruised passed 30/50 as i got everything i wanted by then. the rest is just bonus

yitjuan · Dec 25, 2010, 09:46 AM // 09:46

i actually prefer it. You can check if someone really needs help or they are just trying to leech free help from others. It helps prioritize between helping a genuine noob and a rich lazy bum.

/notsigned

newbie_of_doom · Dec 25, 2010, 11:56 AM // 11:56

I actually disagree, I think it's fun to check up on friends. Maybe, they can make players decide for themselves wether they wish to share or not.
I do not think it is an actual invasion of privacy either. Anyone can check up my xbox live gamerscore as well, if they wanted to.

Hyperventilate · Dec 27, 2010, 01:52 AM // 01:52

I spy on my alliancemates and my guildies all the time, partially because I want to peek at their stuff, and partially because I want to know what I can help them with. "Oh, I see you don't have The Deep, how about we set up a run for...." that kind of stuff.

The fact that we can display titles kind of makes the "Keep it private" null and void. I don't want you to see that I have 30 titles but I'll display GWAMM.

What is in there to keep private, anyway? Oh, so you can see I have obby/vabbian/whatever prestige armor here... so what? Chances are you'll be wearing it anyway.

I don't know, seems kind of silly to block off the HoM calculator.... it isn't hurting anyone and really, what's the point? People will know you're however far along just by what you wear/show.

/notsigned

Prince Rogrs Nelson · Dec 28, 2010, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

Case and point.

Any data that can be linked to you as an individual are considered 'personal data'. So whereas you may not own the data themselves you own the right to their use. Now the HoM data can't be used to directly identify any person, but it's not a stretch to assume that many people have given out their identity to other people in the game.

The main justification for data processing regarding personal data is consent, which is to say an informed consent. Many people were not aware that their HoM achievements would be made public when they added the data, this implies a breach of the principle of consent.

I highly doubt Anet are allowed to show all the data people have submitted to anyone they want. They are certainly not allowed to disclose customer identification such as your name, credit card used to purchase, your address and so on.

I can go on about this in more detail if necessary, but I doubt the general public here finds it very interesting. My main point is, as the OP, that Anet has dealth with the issue of privacy on this matter too lightly. But hey, this seems to be a current trend and most people seem not to mind...

Hmmm...no. Not exactly. I mean, it depends what country we're talking about, but...

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Originally Posted by Hobbs

Thanks for that, i'm an aspiring lawyer (I start university next year) and love reading this kind of stuff.

My advice to you, as a lawyer, would be to start reading LAWYERS. Not well-meaning but uninformed people on gwguru who talk about a "right to privacy" without explaining the source of that right (hint: it REALLY MATTERS in determing just what is encompassed by said "right").

As far as that other business is concerned, about displaying your panda in-game vs. showing it in your HoM...the reasoning is LAUGHABLY BAD.

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

You bring up as an example that someone who displays a title or a panda in game might be said to have given consent. Well yes, sort of - but even if you make some information public to a limited group of people it does not follow that you would want that information spread to a much wider group of people. For many privacy issues it is the "widespreadedness" that causes the most problems. (Relate to paparazzi photos of celebrities, it's when stuff ends up on the internet the problems arise.)

It's not "widespreadedness." It's control of information. If you show your panda (or your obby armor, or your kanaxai, or whatever overpriced piece of crap you actually think people care about) in game somewhere, you've shown it TO THE PUBLIC.

Again, I'm sorry, but you should not talk so extensively about things you so clearly do not understand.

Sankt Hallvard · Dec 28, 2010, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by Prince Rogrs Nelson

Hmmm...no. Not exactly. I mean, it depends what country we're talking about, but...

My advice to you, as a lawyer, would be to start reading LAWYERS. Not well-meaning but uninformed people on gwguru who talk about a "right to privacy" without explaining the source of that right (hint: it REALLY MATTERS in determing just what is encompassed by said "right").

As far as that other business is concerned, about displaying your panda in-game vs. showing it in your HoM...the reasoning is LAUGHABLY BAD.

It's not "widespreadedness." It's control of information. If you show your panda (or your obby armor, or your kanaxai, or whatever overpriced piece of crap you actually think people care about) in game somewhere, you've shown it TO THE PUBLIC.

Again, I'm sorry, but you should not talk so extensively about things you so clearly do not understand.

O holy thread resurrection.

I'm not sure why you come off at me with guns blazing like this? You're not exactly backing up your statements by anything other than claiming to be a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer myself but I do hold a master's degree at law, although I prefer to let arguments speak my case and not titles. Pretty much the way I do in game.

I'm norwegian and I think I stated this earlier and this is in fact how norwegian privacy law works. Being that Anet is an american company(?) they are assumed to meet the european criteria as defined in the 'safe harbor' principles. I know other countries have lower standards for right to privacy but that should not detract from mine.

The displaying of minipets is just a sidetrack, don't get lost on that issue. You can't very well make lists of behaviour made by people in public either - that is, registered to their names or in a way that can identify them.

If you think I'm wrong you're welcome to present some arguments. If you're going to flame and troll I doubt I'll dignify it with another response.

Bellatrixa · Dec 28, 2010, 09:54 PM // 21:54

Ohnoes, how awfuls that people can see what you have achieved in the game so far.

Have any of you privacy freaks even considered that HoM is very similar to GAME RANKINGS in other games? You know, where you can look up an IGN and see what that character has achieved in terms of levels/fame? On some MMOs you can also see what specific server they play, what they're wearing and other features! ZOMGWTFBBQ DESE PPL R HAVIN DEIR PRIVACY INVADED!!!1!!eleventyone!!1!

For frig's sake, this is a GAME. It's not like your credit card details, home address, date of birth and phone number are all on there. You get more information about someone by looking at their Facebook profiles.

/notsignedbecausepeoplehavegottolearnwheretheactual risksareonlineintermsofidentityfraud

Jeez... -_-

Also, I agree with those who haven't signed in terms of finding it useful to help guildies out. I can check on who in my guild needs the same titles that I do so I can team up with them or in other cases, give them things towards those titles. The benefits of HoM being the way it is far outweigh the "gasp my e-peen will be seen for what size it really is".

Chasing Squirrels · Dec 29, 2010, 03:24 AM // 03:24

/not signed is this a joke?